1 00:00:10,390 --> 00:00:08,629 um so i know a lot of you were at 2 00:00:12,709 --> 00:00:10,400 abradcon last year and a lot of you 3 00:00:14,310 --> 00:00:12,719 weren't anyone who wasn't um my name's 4 00:00:15,749 --> 00:00:14,320 alyssa i work with ralph padres who's 5 00:00:17,349 --> 00:00:15,759 the director of the origins institute at 6 00:00:18,870 --> 00:00:17,359 mcmaster university 7 00:00:21,029 --> 00:00:18,880 and he started this institute 8 00:00:23,910 --> 00:00:21,039 specifically to look at the origins of 9 00:00:25,349 --> 00:00:23,920 life um on planets and origins of stars 10 00:00:26,310 --> 00:00:25,359 on the universe and origins of stellar 11 00:00:29,269 --> 00:00:26,320 systems 12 00:00:30,950 --> 00:00:29,279 all things sorry thank you 13 00:00:32,870 --> 00:00:30,960 they're gonna go away okay 14 00:00:34,389 --> 00:00:32,880 um so it's a really big deal just in 15 00:00:36,950 --> 00:00:34,399 terms of origins of life so my work 16 00:00:39,990 --> 00:00:36,960 specifically has to do with seeding life 17 00:00:41,430 --> 00:00:40,000 on exoplanets so i look um mostly at 18 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:41,440 amino acid 19 00:00:45,430 --> 00:00:43,680 concentrations on meteorites and how 20 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:45,440 those might be produced within 21 00:00:48,470 --> 00:00:46,800 meteoritic parent bodies and then 22 00:00:51,190 --> 00:00:48,480 transferred to exoplanets by these 23 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:51,200 meteoritic impacts 24 00:00:56,630 --> 00:00:52,960 i did not include 25 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:56,640 a plot of what i did last year 26 00:01:00,150 --> 00:00:58,800 i will just describe it in just a second 27 00:01:01,990 --> 00:01:00,160 just for for background knowledge so 28 00:01:03,670 --> 00:01:02,000 anyway the point of what i do 29 00:01:05,429 --> 00:01:03,680 um i'm looking at the synthesis of the 30 00:01:07,750 --> 00:01:05,439 amino acids in the parent bodies 31 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:07,760 meteoritic parent bodies um i look at 32 00:01:13,350 --> 00:01:10,080 the concentrations and study the theory 33 00:01:14,870 --> 00:01:13,360 behind how those amino acids got there 34 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:14,880 and the whole point of why we even 35 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:16,640 started doing this research is because 36 00:01:21,350 --> 00:01:18,880 we know that there are biomolecules 37 00:01:23,109 --> 00:01:21,360 present in meteorites and that you know 38 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:23,119 when we go to antarctica or wherever and 39 00:01:26,950 --> 00:01:24,720 pick up those meteorites we have all the 40 00:01:28,469 --> 00:01:26,960 biomolecules in them but there are also 41 00:01:30,630 --> 00:01:28,479 i mean there's evidence for some of 42 00:01:31,910 --> 00:01:30,640 those amino acids being extraterrestrial 43 00:01:34,069 --> 00:01:31,920 in origin so it's not that their 44 00:01:36,789 --> 00:01:34,079 terrestrial contamination they really 45 00:01:38,950 --> 00:01:36,799 were created in space and brought to 46 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:38,960 earth by these meteorites 47 00:01:41,910 --> 00:01:40,720 and again this is just the theory for 48 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:41,920 how life 49 00:01:45,030 --> 00:01:43,600 starts on planets 50 00:01:45,749 --> 00:01:45,040 so the big picture of what i'm trying to 51 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:45,759 do 52 00:01:50,550 --> 00:01:48,399 um is actually model the synthesis so 53 00:01:52,630 --> 00:01:50,560 i'm using some theoretical amino acid 54 00:01:54,230 --> 00:01:52,640 synthesis equations and being like look 55 00:01:56,469 --> 00:01:54,240 let's use the computer and if we put in 56 00:01:58,469 --> 00:01:56,479 this amino acid equation let's see if we 57 00:02:00,069 --> 00:01:58,479 can match the amino acid concentrations 58 00:02:01,990 --> 00:02:00,079 that we see in observed meteorites that 59 00:02:03,590 --> 00:02:02,000 we pick up off the ground 60 00:02:05,510 --> 00:02:03,600 so the first part of my project which is 61 00:02:07,830 --> 00:02:05,520 what i was doing last year was just 62 00:02:09,510 --> 00:02:07,840 trying to find all of the meteoritic 63 00:02:11,510 --> 00:02:09,520 abundance data because there's a lot of 64 00:02:12,550 --> 00:02:11,520 it out there i mean we've known for ages 65 00:02:14,790 --> 00:02:12,560 there are amino acids in these 66 00:02:17,350 --> 00:02:14,800 meteorites but there's a lot of data to 67 00:02:18,869 --> 00:02:17,360 collate to be able to to verify that 68 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:18,879 when i'm modeling my amino acid 69 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:20,400 abundances i'm actually matching what 70 00:02:24,390 --> 00:02:22,800 we're really seeing so the second second 71 00:02:26,229 --> 00:02:24,400 part which is what i've started just 72 00:02:28,229 --> 00:02:26,239 recently is actually doing the modeling 73 00:02:29,670 --> 00:02:28,239 so now i have something to aim for i 74 00:02:31,910 --> 00:02:29,680 have my concentrations that i know and 75 00:02:34,710 --> 00:02:31,920 now i'm changing the dials on my model 76 00:02:37,589 --> 00:02:34,720 to try to recreate those abundances that 77 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:37,599 we get out 78 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:39,200 i wish i had brought it yeah i didn't 79 00:02:43,509 --> 00:02:42,000 bring it um 80 00:02:45,509 --> 00:02:43,519 so last year what i was doing was 81 00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:45,519 looking at how the concentrations of 82 00:02:49,990 --> 00:02:47,920 these amino acids change with gibbs free 83 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:50,000 energy so gibbs free energy is just a 84 00:02:54,229 --> 00:02:51,680 measure of 85 00:02:56,630 --> 00:02:54,239 how how spontaneous a reaction is it's 86 00:02:58,869 --> 00:02:56,640 how much the reaction wants to occur and 87 00:03:01,030 --> 00:02:58,879 what happened last year pretend on this 88 00:03:04,229 --> 00:03:01,040 screen that i have a 89 00:03:06,550 --> 00:03:04,239 um just like an exponential decrease on 90 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:06,560 a graph and this side is concentration 91 00:03:11,110 --> 00:03:09,040 of amino acid and this side is gibbs 92 00:03:12,550 --> 00:03:11,120 free energy increasing gibbs free energy 93 00:03:15,830 --> 00:03:12,560 and the relationship that i got out of 94 00:03:18,390 --> 00:03:15,840 my data last year was that you have 95 00:03:19,910 --> 00:03:18,400 more amino acids being created with an 96 00:03:21,190 --> 00:03:19,920 increase in gibbs free energy which is 97 00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:21,200 exactly the pattern that we would expect 98 00:03:24,149 --> 00:03:22,080 to see 99 00:03:26,790 --> 00:03:24,159 but now given that relationship 100 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:26,800 i've come back through all my data 101 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:27,840 um 102 00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:29,040 oh i was going to talk about meteorites 103 00:03:32,710 --> 00:03:30,560 i kind of just skipped a slide let's 104 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:32,720 pretend that didn't happen meteorites 105 00:03:36,229 --> 00:03:34,560 which have been mentioned um there's a 106 00:03:38,149 --> 00:03:36,239 whole lot of meteorites i don't look at 107 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:38,159 most of them about four percent of 108 00:03:41,990 --> 00:03:40,000 meteorite falls or something called um 109 00:03:45,270 --> 00:03:42,000 these carbonaceous chondrites that i 110 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:45,280 look at that's this green column here on 111 00:03:51,190 --> 00:03:49,360 the left and these the cmci cr cvs also 112 00:03:52,470 --> 00:03:51,200 the cos 113 00:03:54,949 --> 00:03:52,480 and 114 00:03:57,509 --> 00:03:54,959 working on new data the the cbs 115 00:03:58,789 --> 00:03:57,519 um have an extremely high content of for 116 00:04:00,789 --> 00:03:58,799 all meteorites they have an extremely 117 00:04:02,630 --> 00:04:00,799 high content of biomolecules and of 118 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:02,640 water so these are really the meteorite 119 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:03,920 classes that we want to look at when 120 00:04:08,550 --> 00:04:06,560 we're looking for amino acids 121 00:04:11,190 --> 00:04:08,560 and in addition to these letters which 122 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:11,200 describe the different meteorite types 123 00:04:16,469 --> 00:04:14,080 they also fall into a petrologic class 124 00:04:19,270 --> 00:04:16,479 and this this the chart down here on the 125 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:19,280 bottom just tells you roughly how 126 00:04:22,950 --> 00:04:21,440 altered these meteorites are so in the 127 00:04:26,150 --> 00:04:22,960 temperature range which i look at is 128 00:04:27,749 --> 00:04:26,160 between about 150 and 200 degrees c 129 00:04:29,909 --> 00:04:27,759 which is right in here and that 130 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:29,919 corresponds to the meteorite classes 131 00:04:36,310 --> 00:04:32,240 mostly cm and c2 so i tend to stay 132 00:04:37,909 --> 00:04:36,320 within the cmc2 class of meteorites 133 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:37,919 this goes back to the data so this is 134 00:04:42,310 --> 00:04:40,800 what i have spent an entire year doing 135 00:04:44,710 --> 00:04:42,320 no one likes looking at tables i have a 136 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:44,720 table that takes 12 pages to print just 137 00:04:48,469 --> 00:04:46,880 full of amino acid abundance data didn't 138 00:04:51,270 --> 00:04:48,479 want to show you that so instead here's 139 00:04:53,830 --> 00:04:51,280 at least a graph with colors on it 140 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:53,840 these are just the cm meteorites 141 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:55,440 everything along the x-axis is a 142 00:04:59,510 --> 00:04:57,840 different sample of meteorites and along 143 00:05:01,110 --> 00:04:59,520 the y-axis is just concentration so 144 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:01,120 that's parts per billion of amino acid 145 00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:02,880 in whatever meteorite and then all the 146 00:05:05,749 --> 00:05:04,560 different lines are the different amino 147 00:05:08,950 --> 00:05:05,759 acid types 148 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:08,960 so generically glycine is one of the 149 00:05:13,430 --> 00:05:11,280 most common and easiest to form amino 150 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:13,440 acids that we see 151 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:14,960 so it's this dark blue line that's 152 00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:16,320 mostly towards the top and then you get 153 00:05:20,070 --> 00:05:18,320 some variation but in general kind of 154 00:05:21,590 --> 00:05:20,080 the the pattern to see from the cms is 155 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:21,600 that you have fairly high concentrations 156 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:23,520 in here you know you have 10 to the 3 157 00:05:27,430 --> 00:05:25,120 and 10 to the four concentrations of all 158 00:05:29,350 --> 00:05:27,440 these amino acids 159 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:29,360 as opposed to something like this we 160 00:05:33,510 --> 00:05:31,360 have fewer fewer ci meteorites but you 161 00:05:35,590 --> 00:05:33,520 know now we're down you know 10 to the 3 162 00:05:37,110 --> 00:05:35,600 10 to the two range for the ci type 163 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:37,120 meteorites 164 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:38,720 cos again 165 00:05:47,110 --> 00:05:45,749 crs are interesting classically cms are 166 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:47,120 supposed to be the meteorites that have 167 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:49,199 the the greatest biomolecule 168 00:05:52,710 --> 00:05:51,360 concentrations in there but there are a 169 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:52,720 couple of exceptions and those 170 00:05:57,430 --> 00:05:54,880 exceptions all are within the cr class 171 00:05:59,350 --> 00:05:57,440 of meteorites you see these guys 172 00:06:01,029 --> 00:05:59,360 these guys here have up into the 10 to 173 00:06:03,590 --> 00:06:01,039 the 5 10 to the 6 parts per billion 174 00:06:05,590 --> 00:06:03,600 concentrations of amino acids 175 00:06:06,629 --> 00:06:05,600 and that doesn't mean anything well i'm 176 00:06:08,309 --> 00:06:06,639 sorry that's not what i meant it means 177 00:06:09,590 --> 00:06:08,319 stuff on its own not to me it's 178 00:06:11,909 --> 00:06:09,600 important to me because that means when 179 00:06:13,749 --> 00:06:11,919 i try to do my modeling i can't just 180 00:06:15,590 --> 00:06:13,759 match something according to an order of 181 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:15,600 magnitude now i have it gets into 182 00:06:19,590 --> 00:06:17,520 variation you know over multiple orders 183 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:19,600 of magnitude which is just hard to do 184 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:21,360 computationally 185 00:06:24,710 --> 00:06:23,440 oh and cvs more meteorites lots of 186 00:06:25,670 --> 00:06:24,720 meteorites 187 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:25,680 this is 188 00:06:30,469 --> 00:06:28,000 probably um 189 00:06:32,390 --> 00:06:30,479 this is my baby this is a year's worth 190 00:06:34,390 --> 00:06:32,400 of work in one plot 191 00:06:35,189 --> 00:06:34,400 i don't get pretty pictures like a lot 192 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:35,199 of 193 00:06:41,749 --> 00:06:40,000 total average amino acid concentration 194 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:41,759 so each different color each column is a 195 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:43,440 different amino acid and they've been 196 00:06:48,390 --> 00:06:45,680 averaged and totaled over the different 197 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:48,400 meteorite classes and petrologic types 198 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:51,520 so this is very broken down according to 199 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:52,639 the pressure and the temperature 200 00:06:55,590 --> 00:06:54,080 involved in making these meteorites and 201 00:06:57,990 --> 00:06:55,600 what you see is exactly what we saw in 202 00:07:01,589 --> 00:06:58,000 the earlier pattern you have the cm2 and 203 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:01,599 the cr2s that have orders of magnitude 204 00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:03,520 more concentration of amino acids than 205 00:07:07,909 --> 00:07:05,280 something like the ci's you know the 206 00:07:09,189 --> 00:07:07,919 petrologic type ones and the cvs and the 207 00:07:11,189 --> 00:07:09,199 cos 208 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:11,199 so that's just reassuring 209 00:07:14,870 --> 00:07:13,120 um after we have that data what we need 210 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:14,880 to do is convert it because parts per 211 00:07:19,670 --> 00:07:17,360 billion is useful to the observers 212 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:19,680 um but when it comes out of my computer 213 00:07:23,430 --> 00:07:21,360 it doesn't happen in parts per billion i 214 00:07:25,110 --> 00:07:23,440 get data that um 215 00:07:26,469 --> 00:07:25,120 doesn't look like that so this graph is 216 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:26,479 just showing you 217 00:07:30,629 --> 00:07:28,560 specifically i'm relating all of the 218 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:30,639 concentrations in this graph i'm now 219 00:07:34,790 --> 00:07:32,880 just dividing them by the concentration 220 00:07:37,029 --> 00:07:34,800 of glycine so that we have a plot 221 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:37,039 relative to glycine in this image 222 00:07:41,589 --> 00:07:38,880 this is specifically for the cm type 223 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:41,599 meteorites and this for the crs 224 00:07:44,629 --> 00:07:43,440 and again the takeaway message for here 225 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:44,639 is that 226 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:46,720 with some exceptions you classically 227 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:49,120 have like six or so amino acids that 228 00:07:53,110 --> 00:07:51,360 really are the amino acids that stand 229 00:07:54,869 --> 00:07:53,120 out for being present in uh in 230 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:54,879 meteorites so we have a lot of a lot of 231 00:07:59,589 --> 00:07:56,960 glycine a lot of alanine usually we have 232 00:08:01,670 --> 00:07:59,599 more serine aspartic acid glutamic acid 233 00:08:03,830 --> 00:08:01,680 and valine are kind of the main 234 00:08:05,029 --> 00:08:03,840 things 235 00:08:06,230 --> 00:08:05,039 um 236 00:08:07,510 --> 00:08:06,240 it doesn't look like it i know they're 237 00:08:09,430 --> 00:08:07,520 not really exciting pictures but that 238 00:08:11,589 --> 00:08:09,440 was a lot of work it was a lot of work 239 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:11,599 so the point is now i have 240 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:13,680 concentrations and i know what i'm 241 00:08:17,270 --> 00:08:15,919 looking for um so now we come back and 242 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:17,280 do this which is what i'm working on 243 00:08:19,350 --> 00:08:18,400 just now 244 00:08:20,869 --> 00:08:19,360 um 245 00:08:22,469 --> 00:08:20,879 this is done with a program called chem 246 00:08:24,309 --> 00:08:22,479 app chem app 247 00:08:30,230 --> 00:08:24,319 is 248 00:08:32,949 --> 00:08:30,240 gibbs free energy of a system that you 249 00:08:34,949 --> 00:08:32,959 input so i can take chemap and i say hey 250 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:34,959 i want you to consider all of these 251 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:36,719 reactants so we use something called 252 00:08:40,709 --> 00:08:38,640 strecker synthesis to model the reaction 253 00:08:43,509 --> 00:08:40,719 of or the the synthesis amino acid so we 254 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:43,519 input hcn and ammonia and water and some 255 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:46,320 aldehydes and what we hope to get out 256 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:47,120 are 257 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:49,040 relative concentrations of these six 258 00:08:54,310 --> 00:08:51,680 amino acids uh relative to the glycine 259 00:08:55,430 --> 00:08:54,320 that match the observed abundances 260 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:55,440 and you can see that's actually working 261 00:08:58,470 --> 00:08:56,640 pretty well 262 00:09:01,509 --> 00:08:58,480 yay um 263 00:09:03,910 --> 00:09:01,519 so sorry observed is in the red on the 264 00:09:05,990 --> 00:09:03,920 the left side of each of these bars 265 00:09:08,150 --> 00:09:06,000 the red is observed abundances of some 266 00:09:10,630 --> 00:09:08,160 amino acid and the green on the right 267 00:09:12,470 --> 00:09:10,640 side is simulated so that's what's 268 00:09:15,030 --> 00:09:12,480 coming out of my of my model and you can 269 00:09:16,870 --> 00:09:15,040 see that easily to within 270 00:09:18,389 --> 00:09:16,880 roughly an order of magnitude i'm 271 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:18,399 actually getting out concentrations that 272 00:09:22,630 --> 00:09:20,320 agree with observed values of amino 273 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:22,640 acids for um 274 00:09:25,670 --> 00:09:24,560 for 275 00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:25,680 yeah 276 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:27,200 i totally just lost my train of thought 277 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:29,760 sorry where it's working it's working 278 00:09:32,470 --> 00:09:31,440 yay is the point 279 00:09:33,910 --> 00:09:32,480 um 280 00:09:35,590 --> 00:09:33,920 so matching matching amino acid 281 00:09:38,949 --> 00:09:35,600 abundances yay and i'm done and i'm 282 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:38,959 actually on time um ralph my supervisor 283 00:09:42,550 --> 00:09:41,200 undergraduate help darren yay 284 00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:42,560 thanks i'm done 285 00:09:53,670 --> 00:09:51,910 over here sure just a quick one um why 286 00:09:56,710 --> 00:09:53,680 are you normalizing it to like why 287 00:09:58,389 --> 00:09:56,720 glycine um i couldn't give you an exact 288 00:10:00,310 --> 00:09:58,399 answer because classically people who 289 00:10:02,150 --> 00:10:00,320 have looked at amino acids on meteorites 290 00:10:04,710 --> 00:10:02,160 normalize everything to glycine it's 291 00:10:06,310 --> 00:10:04,720 just kind of historical yeah it's just 292 00:10:08,389 --> 00:10:06,320 people have done that for 293 00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:08,399 as long as i like standard mean ocean 294 00:10:13,110 --> 00:10:11,680 water yeah okay that's just what um 295 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:13,120 convention is the word that i want it's 296 00:10:17,030 --> 00:10:15,920 just convention by now 297 00:10:18,389 --> 00:10:17,040 good question though i wondered the same 298 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:18,399 thing i never found out 299 00:10:25,670 --> 00:10:24,230 uh if i could i'd like to add to that 300 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:25,680 comment um 301 00:10:30,150 --> 00:10:27,600 normalization to glycine occurs because 302 00:10:32,150 --> 00:10:30,160 it's the simplest amino acid so it makes 303 00:10:34,870 --> 00:10:32,160 sense to normalize to the one that's 304 00:10:37,509 --> 00:10:34,880 easiest to make 305 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:37,519 i have a question about 306 00:10:42,509 --> 00:10:41,040 your striker synthesis simulation so 307 00:10:44,470 --> 00:10:42,519 i want to make sure i didn't 308 00:10:45,430 --> 00:10:44,480 misinterpret what you said did you say 309 00:10:47,670 --> 00:10:45,440 that you 310 00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:47,680 put aldehydes into your 311 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:50,160 strecker model synthesis 312 00:10:53,990 --> 00:10:51,920 that should be formed by the striker 313 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:54,000 synthesis yes we are only considering 314 00:10:57,430 --> 00:10:55,680 striker synthesis that begins with the 315 00:10:58,790 --> 00:10:57,440 aldehydes we are not doing formation of 316 00:11:00,470 --> 00:10:58,800 aldehydes in our model because it gets 317 00:11:02,230 --> 00:11:00,480 too complicated we have too many 318 00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:02,240 variables if we include everything that 319 00:11:07,110 --> 00:11:04,399 also is needed to make the aldehydes but 320 00:11:09,030 --> 00:11:07,120 because we have detected aldehydes in 321 00:11:10,949 --> 00:11:09,040 comets and meteorites and stuff like 322 00:11:13,509 --> 00:11:10,959 this we're assuming that they're there 323 00:11:16,230 --> 00:11:13,519 so in our model it is very much assuming 324 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:16,240 an unnecessary amount of 325 00:11:19,110 --> 00:11:17,600 of aldehydes that are already in the 326 00:11:20,550 --> 00:11:19,120 system these are the amino acids we 327 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:20,560 would produce 328 00:11:25,350 --> 00:11:23,040 okay so 329 00:11:27,670 --> 00:11:25,360 you're considering striker synthesis 330 00:11:29,110 --> 00:11:27,680 starting from the aldehyde yes 331 00:11:30,949 --> 00:11:29,120 but strecker synthesis makes the 332 00:11:32,630 --> 00:11:30,959 aldehyde stricter synthesis makes the 333 00:11:34,949 --> 00:11:32,640 amino acids 334 00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:34,959 right so the the aldehydes form first 335 00:11:37,829 --> 00:11:36,480 then that's protonated and you get the 336 00:11:41,030 --> 00:11:37,839 amino acid 337 00:11:43,750 --> 00:11:41,040 but the aldehyde is formed with in the 338 00:11:46,069 --> 00:11:43,760 presence of ammonia and hcn like you 339 00:11:48,310 --> 00:11:46,079 mentioned yes so that's the precursor 340 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:48,320 that's formed during striker synthesis 341 00:11:53,430 --> 00:11:51,120 yes so are you're simulating the latter 342 00:11:54,870 --> 00:11:53,440 half of the strike so not the entire 343 00:11:56,069 --> 00:11:54,880 striker synthesis process no we're not 344 00:11:57,750 --> 00:11:56,079 doing formation valve heights we're 345 00:11:59,269 --> 00:11:57,760 saying given aldehydes because once you 346 00:12:00,630 --> 00:11:59,279 have an aldehyde you react again with 347 00:12:02,069 --> 00:12:00,640 the hcn and the ammonia and the other 348 00:12:05,030 --> 00:12:02,079 things and what comes out the far end is 349 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:05,040 an amino acid that's it's very no one's 350 00:12:08,230 --> 00:12:06,720 ever done this before and you i can't 351 00:12:09,910 --> 00:12:08,240 include all the parameters in this model 352 00:12:11,990 --> 00:12:09,920 right off the bat it's impossible so 353 00:12:13,509 --> 00:12:12,000 we're for now looking specifically at 354 00:12:22,870 --> 00:12:13,519 amino acid concentrations and trying to 355 00:12:27,750 --> 00:12:24,629 all right so also in your synthetic 356 00:12:28,870 --> 00:12:27,760 model you're only using like a normal um 357 00:12:30,389 --> 00:12:28,880 well 358 00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:30,399 aldehydes and those sort of things do 359 00:12:33,269 --> 00:12:31,760 you have any of the exotic charge 360 00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:33,279 species that you see in dusk screen 361 00:12:37,350 --> 00:12:35,120 formations or the meteorites to take 362 00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:37,360 into account some of those or is it just 363 00:12:42,550 --> 00:12:40,240 the basic striker synthesis model it's 364 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:42,560 again mostly basic because this research 365 00:12:46,550 --> 00:12:44,800 is so new we have another summer student 366 00:12:48,550 --> 00:12:46,560 right now who's looking at ketones and 367 00:12:49,910 --> 00:12:48,560 carboxylic acids and we're trying to get 368 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:49,920 other data outside of just the 369 00:12:53,269 --> 00:12:51,600 meteorites that we have but from my 370 00:12:55,269 --> 00:12:53,279 project which because no one's done this 371 00:12:57,509 --> 00:12:55,279 before it's very much limited to this 372 00:12:59,350 --> 00:12:57,519 set of meteorites and just like half a 373 00:13:01,350 --> 00:12:59,360 dozen aldehydes 374 00:13:02,629 --> 00:13:01,360 all right yeah it's it both of your 375 00:13:03,990 --> 00:13:02,639 points are very valid and that's future 376 00:13:05,829 --> 00:13:04,000 work that we would like to do it's just 377 00:13:08,470 --> 00:13:05,839 because we haven't had 378 00:13:10,069 --> 00:13:08,480 a chance yet 379 00:13:12,310 --> 00:13:10,079 hi alyssa thank you that was very nice 380 00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:12,320 talk um i wanted to comment on the one 381 00:13:16,710 --> 00:13:13,600 slide that you showed the different 382 00:13:17,990 --> 00:13:16,720 classes of meteorites it looked like 383 00:13:19,829 --> 00:13:18,000 two of the classes that were in the 384 00:13:21,269 --> 00:13:19,839 center that had more the red orangey 385 00:13:22,470 --> 00:13:21,279 colors oh go back 386 00:13:25,110 --> 00:13:22,480 whoa back 387 00:13:28,069 --> 00:13:25,120 sorry you just passed it oh this one yes 388 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:28,079 that one so cm2 and cr2 it looks like 389 00:13:32,069 --> 00:13:29,760 the the orange and reds are more 390 00:13:33,910 --> 00:13:32,079 hydrophobic amino acids i was wondering 391 00:13:36,790 --> 00:13:33,920 if you could comment on the significance 392 00:13:38,629 --> 00:13:36,800 of that compared to the other classes 393 00:13:41,030 --> 00:13:38,639 is there one 394 00:13:44,150 --> 00:13:41,040 um i am not a chemist 395 00:13:45,829 --> 00:13:44,160 um i'm sure there is we've had um some 396 00:13:47,750 --> 00:13:45,839 other people that are interested in this 397 00:13:49,509 --> 00:13:47,760 work that want to look more at some 398 00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:49,519 specific chemical 399 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:52,160 behaviors of these amino acids 400 00:13:56,389 --> 00:13:54,480 i can absolutely not comment on that 401 00:13:58,550 --> 00:13:56,399 sorry um people are looking at you know 402 00:14:01,829 --> 00:13:58,560 hydrophobicity and 403 00:14:03,189 --> 00:14:01,839 electron stuff stuff and how conductive 404 00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:03,199 they are and all these other things and 405 00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:04,880 i'm like yeah sure you know 406 00:14:10,310 --> 00:14:07,680 so they do that i have no idea